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tell me how you're going to cut taxes. >> i think jim lehrer will press on this. i think he'll say what loopholes are you going to close? what tax benefits are you going to take away in? what cuts are you going to make in thing like pell grants. i don't know exactly how he will do it but i think he'll press on that. he prides himself on being substantive, on understanding these issues, and feeling the purpose of a presidential debate is to get these guys out of their stump speeches and into a real conversation with each other and with the american people. >> well, that's what we all try to do in this business. i think everybody i know tries to do that. get the person off the memorized material, because we're so bored with that. we don't think it teaches anything. you had a point about behavior, body language and smiling. i was taken with your idea that you smile too much, it looks like a smirk. have you to hold your smile to what's funny, how about that use of the smile, when something's really funny? >> the smile -- look, there's this is no problem for the presid
tell me how you're going to cut taxes. >> i think jim lehrer will press on this. i think he'll say what loopholes are you going to close? what tax benefits are you going to take away in? what cuts are you going to make in thing like pell grants. i don't know exactly how he will do it but i think he'll press on that. he prides himself on being substantive, on understanding these issues, and feeling the purpose of a presidential debate is to get these guys out of their stump speeches and...
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>> i don't think jim lehrer needs to. >> okay. the knockout blow. are we going to see it when we hear? >> i think you will. the people in the hall missed it during the infamous gore debate because we didn't hear the sign. if you have that awkward moment and people jump back, that's the sort of thing that can change the trajectory. >> mark, your thoughts. processing answers, like bob bowl when he says that bill is a markup. >> exactly. i can get this out of conference. we can go forward. i think that a lot of the discourse in politics and in debates can be about process, about who's got a plan or why you've done a certain thing. often one candidate will try to accuse another. the think the winner is the one who sticks to, what do the american people care about? how to specific the economy and don't get bogged down in the process. it's easy to flip. >> do you think it's a problem -- you talk about being optimistic. these guys are used to throwing red meat out, getting nurtured. the rules are -- there is no noise, no reaction. so you throw out what you
>> i don't think jim lehrer needs to. >> okay. the knockout blow. are we going to see it when we hear? >> i think you will. the people in the hall missed it during the infamous gore debate because we didn't hear the sign. if you have that awkward moment and people jump back, that's the sort of thing that can change the trajectory. >> mark, your thoughts. processing answers, like bob bowl when he says that bill is a markup. >> exactly. i can get this out of...
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not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he stands and where he wants to take the country and there's no better platform than for the president to take him to the house. how can you expect him to be straight with you as president when he can't even run his own campaign? get your cell phones out. tonight's question, will mitt romney continue his campaign of lies at tomorrow's debate? text a for yes or b or no. you can always go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me is robert gibbs, senior obama campaign adviser. great to have you with us tonight. there's so much meat on the bones here. we have laid out all of the distortions and the lies that we have seen from the romney campaign. there's a lot of target-rich environment for president obama. what about this tax plan. is president obama obligated to supporters
not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he stands and where he wants to take the country and there's no better platform than for the president to take him to the house. how can you expect him to be straight with you as president when he can't even run his own campaign? get your cell phones out. tonight's question,...
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look what he did to jim lehrer. >> he bullied. >> jim lehrer got his hair cut last night. >> look at his demeanor. the whole -- i think it was clear to me that the president -- they went in there with a lot of confidence. they played not to lose. they also played -- he overcorrected to the downside. i have to believe the campaign is surprised. >> what happens in football and basketball when you have a big lead and play not to lose the lead? you lose the lead. >> here's the thing. i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky.
look what he did to jim lehrer. >> he bullied. >> jim lehrer got his hair cut last night. >> look at his demeanor. the whole -- i think it was clear to me that the president -- they went in there with a lot of confidence. they played not to lose. they also played -- he overcorrected to the downside. i have to believe the campaign is surprised. >> what happens in football and basketball when you have a big lead and play not to lose the lead? you lose the lead. >>...
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lehrer dismantled. this is one of those debates, you could predict the score more by time of possession in terms of who was speaking more. then you could by any other individual plays. let me bring in steve schmidt who is a senior strategist. what's your overall assessment? >> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and just the context of how good mitt romney was tonight. >> i thought that in terms of individual exchanges i think what may have been most notable, there wasn't i think a single direct attack against mitt romney from president obama. however, they sub
lehrer dismantled. this is one of those debates, you could predict the score more by time of possession in terms of who was speaking more. then you could by any other individual plays. let me bring in steve schmidt who is a senior strategist. what's your overall assessment? >> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began...
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it was a curious choice of all the journalists that jim lehrer is who they called on for this. the one criticism that i see that resonates the most with me. we have three presidential debates and this was the domestic policy debaltdebate. this was a narrow set of policy questions last night. there were no questions about immigration last night or gay marriage last night. >> women's issues. >> these are major issues in the campaign and there's a movement to diversify the moderator pool a little bit. >> jim lehrer is a historic choice for them, but they treated him as a replacement ref. he should be out of the pool. >> i didn't think he was great. you can't blame the moderator. they had the same. >> he was terrible at his job. >> ultimately this wasn't about jim lehrer but president obama and mitt romney. they both had the opportunity to take advantage of the situation, and one did and one didn't. >> all right. so what do we make of all the 2012 election predictions out there? the original nate, nate silver is in the guest spot next, or is it becoming the nate spot? we had nate c
it was a curious choice of all the journalists that jim lehrer is who they called on for this. the one criticism that i see that resonates the most with me. we have three presidential debates and this was the domestic policy debaltdebate. this was a narrow set of policy questions last night. there were no questions about immigration last night or gay marriage last night. >> women's issues. >> these are major issues in the campaign and there's a movement to diversify the moderator...
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from anderson cooper, jim lehrer and now candy crowley. here's a look back. >> this is the way the rules work here is that i get 60 second -- >> but the -- >> and then you get 30 seconds to respond. >> the president began this segment so i think i get the last word, so i -- >> well, i got to move you along. the next question is for you -- >> he actually got the first question, so i get the last question -- last answer on that one. >> but he gets the first word of that segment. >> anderson -- >> you said -- >> follow the rules. >> it's not tough. >> doesn't quite work like that but i'll give you a chance here -- >> the president said the government -- >> just going to keep talking. >> want to -- before quickly -- >> let's get back to medicare. >> excuse me. >> let's talk the other big one. >> no, no, let's not. >> we'll leave all these guys sitting here. >> big shot ceo behavior in the boardroom. i think candy heard for the first time, and the rest of us. the internet exploded as soon as mitt romney uttered the phrase "binders full of women
from anderson cooper, jim lehrer and now candy crowley. here's a look back. >> this is the way the rules work here is that i get 60 second -- >> but the -- >> and then you get 30 seconds to respond. >> the president began this segment so i think i get the last word, so i -- >> well, i got to move you along. the next question is for you -- >> he actually got the first question, so i get the last question -- last answer on that one. >> but he gets the...
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jim lehrer's questions may alter the course of events. we don't know if romney's going to get to use his zingers. we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and to be professional. and to seek the truth. i employed those attributes as a reporter and despite how professional i thought it was an how fair i thought i was, i was accused of making george bush look bad and of making clinton look good, which was completely false. clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he wa
jim lehrer's questions may alter the course of events. we don't know if romney's going to get to use his zingers. we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good...
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i think the big question of tonight is, and this is actually a question how jim lehrer navigates this, where is the emphasis of the domestic policy discussion on the spectrum of deficit and jobs? if it is on jobs, that is where you want to keep the conversation as the president. because even though the unemployment number is high, there are many things he can point to as the president that are concrete plans for job creation. if it's deficit, the president the in a weaker position, because people just associate him with the deficits, with spending. that's been a very effective line for mitt romney. and it's actually going to be interesting to see whether jim lehrer subscribes to a beltway connection with deficits, and we see from those numbers, the president is doing poorly on deficits and he's winning the race right now. >> people vote more on jobs than they vote on deficits, despite the amount the beltway obsesses on it. ed, last word? >> the other thing about the deficit, this could rope the president into a very vulnerable position and get him into a conversation about what hays g
i think the big question of tonight is, and this is actually a question how jim lehrer navigates this, where is the emphasis of the domestic policy discussion on the spectrum of deficit and jobs? if it is on jobs, that is where you want to keep the conversation as the president. because even though the unemployment number is high, there are many things he can point to as the president that are concrete plans for job creation. if it's deficit, the president the in a weaker position, because...
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it sounded like an unpleasant board meeting at which jim lehrer was being set aside and fired summarily in front of the rest of the board. it sounded extremely harsh to my ear, and i did acknowledge that maybe because i am listening from a female point of view, i thought when he was interrupting, goading, really bullying jim lehrer, you know, as bad a moderator as jim lehrer is being said to be today, i thought mitt romney's attitude toward him was actually a negative thing for him and didn't help him in the big problem he has, which is likability. >> yeah. it felt to me like mitt romney showed up thinking that his goal was to be the alpha male. >> right. >> and that he needed to assert his dominance over everyone there, and certainly jim lehrer bore the brunt, the president as well. i got the sense that for him it was a dominance thing. it was very aggressive, and i agree with joy, i think a lot of women, particularly women who were already inclined to vote for the president, which as we know many women are, are going to be further turned off by that tone. >> do you think that he was l
it sounded like an unpleasant board meeting at which jim lehrer was being set aside and fired summarily in front of the rest of the board. it sounded extremely harsh to my ear, and i did acknowledge that maybe because i am listening from a female point of view, i thought when he was interrupting, goading, really bullying jim lehrer, you know, as bad a moderator as jim lehrer is being said to be today, i thought mitt romney's attitude toward him was actually a negative thing for him and didn't...
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and to be fair, when bad lip reading did their sum up on the first debate, they focused more on jim lehrer than they did the candidates, but did so to beautiful effect. >> about how did you know who did it in the lounge. >> i didn't know. >> you didn't know? well, they started clapping, for the mad cow, until someone sold him. and then when he died, they had him stuffed, like that water buffalo, stuffed. i want you to turn to and look at each other. yeah. oh, now, that's nice. just stare deeply into each other's eyes. yeah. good. now say the first thing that pops into your brain. >> i don't want to touch sandpaper. >> i like the whiz. >> okay, all right. now, i want to try something. why don't we go mmm. >> mmmmmm. >> mmmmmmm. >> okay, good, that's what i want you to do. >> uh, mitt? >> yeah, he's asleep. >> oh! >> it's party time, chumps! >> i love the bad lip reading people. on the eve of the second debate, which is the vice presidential debate tomorrow, that was bad lip reading's effort to sum up the first one. there's a minute or two more of it. it's awesome. you can watch the whole th
and to be fair, when bad lip reading did their sum up on the first debate, they focused more on jim lehrer than they did the candidates, but did so to beautiful effect. >> about how did you know who did it in the lounge. >> i didn't know. >> you didn't know? well, they started clapping, for the mad cow, until someone sold him. and then when he died, they had him stuffed, like that water buffalo, stuffed. i want you to turn to and look at each other. yeah. oh, now, that's nice....
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there was a long silence at the end of the phone when i presented this idea to jim lehrer. i was sure he was searching for a polite way of saying that is absolutely ridiculous that would never happen. when he finally spoke, he said, i've been sitting up there waiting for that to happen for years. but mitt romney won't propose dropping the rules, because mitt romney is a candidate with a lot to hide. mitt romney is still hiding his tax returns and mitt romney is still hiding what he wants to do to your tax returns. the deductions on your tax returns. a candidate with as much to hide as mitt romney needs to hide, needs to hide behind the rules. the rules that strictly limit the speaking times of each candidate. but mitt romney will have a two-minute final statement, just like alan alda did in the west wing presidential debate. every word alan alda said in his final statement is something that mitt romney could say tomorrow night. he could put the best possible face on republicanism in that final two minutes. it could be done. but mitt romney won't do that. because his staff i
there was a long silence at the end of the phone when i presented this idea to jim lehrer. i was sure he was searching for a polite way of saying that is absolutely ridiculous that would never happen. when he finally spoke, he said, i've been sitting up there waiting for that to happen for years. but mitt romney won't propose dropping the rules, because mitt romney is a candidate with a lot to hide. mitt romney is still hiding his tax returns and mitt romney is still hiding what he wants to do...
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he's waiting for jim lehrer to bring it up? waiting for him to bring up these topics? he wasn't going to do it. certainly romney -- i have to remind you, mr. frez, i said the 47% of the american people don't count. i was going to remind you, mr. president, i am going to throw 80-year-old to vouchers. i was for bankruptcy of the auto industry. do you think he's going to bring this stuff up? you have to toot your own horn. i'm not the debate coach but i'll tell you one thing, if they don't bring up their winning issues, i don't understand what they're up to. i don't know what they're here for. this is -- >> i wish you were the debate coach. >>en owe the big issues you have to bring them up. they've just heard me say, these are important issues. if you're for romney, they're important. romney be has these positions. he has to defend them. >> chuck, you wanted to intervene. >> i would say now you're hearing exactly why from what i'm getting from the obama campaign is that they know that biden has to make the base happy tonight. this isn't about appealing to swing voters, t
he's waiting for jim lehrer to bring it up? waiting for him to bring up these topics? he wasn't going to do it. certainly romney -- i have to remind you, mr. frez, i said the 47% of the american people don't count. i was going to remind you, mr. president, i am going to throw 80-year-old to vouchers. i was for bankruptcy of the auto industry. do you think he's going to bring this stuff up? you have to toot your own horn. i'm not the debate coach but i'll tell you one thing, if they don't bring...
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the question is then this, what does barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that
the question is then this, what does barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the...
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it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the #savesesamestreet became the top trending topic. >> i don't understand. you know, everything was just fine. why does it have to be this way? give me one good reason. >> well, that's the problem, pbs doesn't receive any direct money from the government. the government funds the corporation for public broadcasting, a profit -- a private non-profit corporation that distributes the subsidy to local pbs stations. in 2012, cpb was given $444.1 million. let's see. what is that? that's .012% of the federal budget. last year, pbs received just 5% of cpb's total appropriation? so in terms of having an impact on the nation's debt, folks, we're talking about a drop in the bucket, but to many americans mitt romney is talking about cutting an institution. pbs calls itself america's biggest classroom for a reason. it offers educational programming to kids across america who
it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the #savesesamestreet became the top trending topic. >> i don't understand. you know, everything was just fine. why does it have to be this way? give me one good reason. >> well, that's the problem, pbs doesn't receive any direct money from the government. the government funds the corporation for...
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. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am amssuing you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a chance to get a second look from the electorate. when he was in a bad patch after the 47%. you said, what does he need? not to make any more big mistakes and needs an outstanding first debate. the advantage for romney now, a lot of people, most importantly independent swing voters and undecideds in the key battleground states, he has an opportunity to get a second look. i would say the danger -- there's a danger for the obama people. the danger for the romney people is that they start moon danc
. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am amssuing...
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people criticized jim lehrer for being a little feeble and absent and invisible. excuse me, and he was like peter falk. one more thing. >> can i talk? >> no, no? okay. then martha raddatz, who i thought was assertive, some criticized her for being too aggressive. there you saw her scolding the vice president. she tried with paul ryan as well. maybe candy crowley is in the position of having to be just right. not the jim lehrer, who is completely invisible and to that end she said in politico today she doesn't want to be the wall flower but not this too intrusive martha raddatz type. she has a burden, though, right? >> she does. the thing that bothers me is candy crowley is only the second woman in 20 years -- she's the first woman in 20 years to moderate a presidential debate. she's only the second woman ever to do it. both have been relegated to the town hall debate where they're not really moderators. they're supposed to stand there and essentially call on the students in the class. in fact, the rules that the campaigns agreed to, although candy did not agree to
people criticized jim lehrer for being a little feeble and absent and invisible. excuse me, and he was like peter falk. one more thing. >> can i talk? >> no, no? okay. then martha raddatz, who i thought was assertive, some criticized her for being too aggressive. there you saw her scolding the vice president. she tried with paul ryan as well. maybe candy crowley is in the position of having to be just right. not the jim lehrer, who is completely invisible and to that end she said in...
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moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up t
moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations...
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jim lehrer only had time for five because basically the candidates went longer in every section. the idea, tonight, is in this 90-minute debate, there will be nine topics, ten minutes each for the nine topics. but each candidate will begin each topic with a two-minute statement. so let's assume for a moment that each one of them will go over a little bit. the first five minutes of each topic is just each candidate's opening statement. then they're supposed to engage in a discussion. that will leave probably only about five minutes or less for that, so some of these are going to feel like some of the quicker segments we end up doing on our shows on msnbc. martha raddatz is going to try to get to all nine. i don't think there's any chance with the two speakers she'll do that. she'll be lucky if she gets to seven of the topics. i hope the audience keeps a very important thing in mind about this debate. what you will watch tonight has nothing to do with the executive function of the presidency or vice presidency. governing is not done on stages with microphones, with television camer
jim lehrer only had time for five because basically the candidates went longer in every section. the idea, tonight, is in this 90-minute debate, there will be nine topics, ten minutes each for the nine topics. but each candidate will begin each topic with a two-minute statement. so let's assume for a moment that each one of them will go over a little bit. the first five minutes of each topic is just each candidate's opening statement. then they're supposed to engage in a discussion. that will...
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figure this is coming up one way or another, if not from lehrer, certainly obama. i will take my turn, howard, curious what you make of this i would like to hear, i think maybe the most challenging that jim lehrer can ask mitt romney tonight is a simple one. gore nor, tell us one specific policy area where you would be a different president than george w. bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you attribute the record rise in poverty and the ex-spams of income inequality und youer your administration? >> a great question and if i decided to start with the president, that's the question i would have used, just that one. i ment
figure this is coming up one way or another, if not from lehrer, certainly obama. i will take my turn, howard, curious what you make of this i would like to hear, i think maybe the most challenging that jim lehrer can ask mitt romney tonight is a simple one. gore nor, tell us one specific policy area where you would be a different president than george w. bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period....
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mitt romney was more in control of the debate and walked all over jim lehrer and obama didn't fight back. obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think
mitt romney was more in control of the debate and walked all over jim lehrer and obama didn't fight back. obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush,...
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the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, not so great expectations, both campaigns try to lower the bar ahead of tonight's debate we will try to sneak a peek inside the playbook. smoke screen and strategy with the obama campaign's ben labolt, just ahead. time for the entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation of rosenwach tanks. find his family's wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. these tanks are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nic
the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex....
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in a much better way than jim lehrer did. but i have to tell you, richard, i've been watching debates. this is the best or the worst debate i've ever seen. >> yeah. you had to keep your eyes on every second of that one. i want to play another -- you talked about the rules and the timing. something you also had to deal with. let me play a bit of this and how candy crowley handled that. >> governor romney, there'll be plenty of chances to go on, but i want -- >> that detroit answer -- that detroit answer. >> republicans -- >> mr. president, let me move you on here, please. mr. president. >> it's time for them to get serious on it. >> joe scarborough was making a comment here that it can be difficult as a debater in this forum and this format to, if you will, run over the moderator if she is a woman. and that it would be not seen as being very savory. >> well, yes. it looked like they were trying to roll her, but they didn't. she stood her ground and she made her point. i do want to say that there was a loser in this debate and
in a much better way than jim lehrer did. but i have to tell you, richard, i've been watching debates. this is the best or the worst debate i've ever seen. >> yeah. you had to keep your eyes on every second of that one. i want to play another -- you talked about the rules and the timing. something you also had to deal with. let me play a bit of this and how candy crowley handled that. >> governor romney, there'll be plenty of chances to go on, but i want -- >> that detroit...
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job creator is coming over to boss you around just like he did to jim lehrer and tried to do to candy crowley. he's the big shot who wants to tell what you birth control coverage you can get at work and what you can do with your body. he's got plans for you, and you owe it to yourself to know them. with me is activist lilly ledbetter and jane walsh, whose new book is "what's the matter with white people." thank you for coming on the program tonight. it really has come down to the strange way in which mitt romney speaks, how he speaks almost in a 1950s pre-"mad men" era, if you will, about men and women in the workplace. >> that's right. and he's scaring me to death. it scares me for my family, my neighbors, and all the people across this nation because if he's elected and these crazy ideals are implemented, i don't know where we common people will end up. it is so scary, chris, for where we're headed, and these are not even common sense thinking ideals about what he wants to do. i don't and would not want an employer of mine to decide what i can do with my body or my birth control or
job creator is coming over to boss you around just like he did to jim lehrer and tried to do to candy crowley. he's the big shot who wants to tell what you birth control coverage you can get at work and what you can do with your body. he's got plans for you, and you owe it to yourself to know them. with me is activist lilly ledbetter and jane walsh, whose new book is "what's the matter with white people." thank you for coming on the program tonight. it really has come down to the...
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dynamic, you know, it was uncomfortable watching him do that and sort of -- he sort of steam rolled jim lehrer but did not seem as acceptable in this venue with this moderator. >> well, it's possible that's just the job that candy was doing as well. i'm a little reluctant to engage in that idea that, you know, just because you have a woman moderating the debate we should all be a little bit, you know -- def ren shall. that seems contrary to sort of the whole point. i agree with the point that mark was making which is just that, you know, i think there was an audible gasp inside the room when romney sort of made that remark to obama, you'll have your turn in a moment. i think that was sort of striking for everyone in the room and also for those of us who were watching. >> actually can i -- sorry. go ahead. don't want to talk over the female host. >> this is a real juggling act i'm sorry to not be as gracious as i usually am. mr. lipton, i do want to talk to you about the tension between the two candidates because watching them on the stage last night, it is clear that there has been no love los
dynamic, you know, it was uncomfortable watching him do that and sort of -- he sort of steam rolled jim lehrer but did not seem as acceptable in this venue with this moderator. >> well, it's possible that's just the job that candy was doing as well. i'm a little reluctant to engage in that idea that, you know, just because you have a woman moderating the debate we should all be a little bit, you know -- def ren shall. that seems contrary to sort of the whole point. i agree with the point...
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i saw jim lehrer in the green room. it was his fault. >> it was all jim lehrer's fault. >> it was all john kerry's fault. he didn't prep him well enough. >> as you're reeling it off, and harold and sam are agreeing, hey, things are getting better. why didn't he do that? >> well, we've got one more debate. he'd better get over the altitude. >> the altitude. i would say it's not credible. i think you take a step back. 23 million people out of work. >> what i just said is not credible? >> you are credible. but if the president used those lines, they are not credible. >> why? >> i'll tell you. 23 million americans out of work or looking for work, okay? the job picture has not improved. >> what? >> meaning more jobs haven't been created month to month. one out of six people are in poverty. 47 million americans are on food stamps. you can't just get up there and say well, things were bad when i inherited this. four years later they're slightly better. i don't really have any meat on the bones of a plan going forward. >> what
i saw jim lehrer in the green room. it was his fault. >> it was all jim lehrer's fault. >> it was all john kerry's fault. he didn't prep him well enough. >> as you're reeling it off, and harold and sam are agreeing, hey, things are getting better. why didn't he do that? >> well, we've got one more debate. he'd better get over the altitude. >> the altitude. i would say it's not credible. i think you take a step back. 23 million people out of work. >> what i...
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i appreciate the fact that jim lehrer asked questions of substance and we each responded to them. i got the chance to ask the president questions people across the country wanted to ask him. such as, why did he push obamacare when we had 23 million people out of work? >> and last night, mitt romney was asked how he would have responded had the president brought up his hidden camera remarks about the 47%. >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case, i said something that's completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president, it will be about helping the 100%. >> during wednesday night's debate, mitt romney forcefully defended his tax plan, rejecting the president's claim that his proposal would ultimately raise the tax burden on the middle class. romney has called for cutting inc
i appreciate the fact that jim lehrer asked questions of substance and we each responded to them. i got the chance to ask the president questions people across the country wanted to ask him. such as, why did he push obamacare when we had 23 million people out of work? >> and last night, mitt romney was asked how he would have responded had the president brought up his hidden camera remarks about the 47%. >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and...
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jim lehrer is not getting in my way. why didn't he say here is why i stuck out my neck for the american auto industry. >> absolutely. >> it's not just about jobs. i feel american people like to build cars. we love cars. it's in our nature to build them and build the best. it's important that guys and women have jobs making cars. it's important to who we are as americans. maybe general motors was good -- damn it, it's good to have general motors, something passionate that would have gone right to ohio, to pennsylvania, wisconsin. they would have said, damn it, this guy gets how much thrill i get getting on that line every day and turning out these great cars that i want to buy. why didn't -- how about women? a girl ought to know from the time she's 16 her hours are as valuable as the male's hour of work. these are passionate things he believes in. he stood there like he was an observer of romney's performance. i could go on -- i got to let you talk. i could go on. go ahead. >> you could go on. we might want you to stand i
jim lehrer is not getting in my way. why didn't he say here is why i stuck out my neck for the american auto industry. >> absolutely. >> it's not just about jobs. i feel american people like to build cars. we love cars. it's in our nature to build them and build the best. it's important that guys and women have jobs making cars. it's important to who we are as americans. maybe general motors was good -- damn it, it's good to have general motors, something passionate that would have...
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i don't want to knock jim lehrer, he's a distinguished journalist but i have seen people like the late tim russert and people like bob schieffer, whenever they hear a complete nonsense statement from a politician on the sunday shows, they tend to go, now, just a minute. are you saying -- you can't believe that. that sort of general, ron, skepticism. you first, michelle. isn't it in order to stop him and say that's not been your position, sir. >> i understand the argument that he wants to be a kind of neutral arbiter, but, yes, absolutely. when you say, you know, flat out there is no tax cut for the wealthy in my plan or he says that kind of higher income people won't play any smaller of a share of the tax burden, when he's been saying on camera for more than a year now that he intends to reduce their rates to 20%, that he intends to reduce the inheritance tax, reduce capital gains -- >> it's called cut. >> it's pretty easy to just say how do you square this with your earlier statements. you don't even have to call him out for lying. that's a legitimate question. >> and there are -- >>
i don't want to knock jim lehrer, he's a distinguished journalist but i have seen people like the late tim russert and people like bob schieffer, whenever they hear a complete nonsense statement from a politician on the sunday shows, they tend to go, now, just a minute. are you saying -- you can't believe that. that sort of general, ron, skepticism. you first, michelle. isn't it in order to stop him and say that's not been your position, sir. >> i understand the argument that he wants to...
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>> this is the problem in terms of president obama and his supporters having said the fault was jim lehrer. obama is going to have to if he feels mitt romney is saying things that are not right or not true or misrepresentative of his positions, it's the candidate's job to make that case. i know you talked about therlier in the show. that is going to be something i suspect you will see president obama hit very hard tonight. this is a key issue. this is something that, as you said, this has been twice now the governor made the statement and one of his aides walked it back. i think the president will address 234 this in full. >> that's always been a weakness in television and the advantage of print. print the next day does a very good job or the second day of clearing up the facts. television is live and phenomenal and rarely do you find an anchor or a host or a moderator with the whatever it takes to say, whoa, i know that fact, and you're wrong. it's a factual thing you're getting wrong there. >> that's why maggie is absolutely right. the president has got to do it in the debate. it wouldn'
>> this is the problem in terms of president obama and his supporters having said the fault was jim lehrer. obama is going to have to if he feels mitt romney is saying things that are not right or not true or misrepresentative of his positions, it's the candidate's job to make that case. i know you talked about therlier in the show. that is going to be something i suspect you will see president obama hit very hard tonight. this is a key issue. this is something that, as you said, this has...
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jim lehrer, fine. you can get out a knife and have a knife fight with jim lehrer. but you don't do that with a female moderator. it's problematic. secondly, you don't run over the president of the united states. whether that president's a republican or whether that president is a democrat. there are independent voters who believe that a president should be treated with deference because he is the commander in chief. >> and you do it carefully. >> more in sadness than in anger. >> with all due respect. with all due respect. >> and the mitt romney that we saw yesterday was the mitt romney who was very successful in cutting off newt gingrich and rick perry and herman cain when the stakes were far lower, and it took him about 20 minutes to figure out that he just couldn't be that much of a bulldozer. >> yeah. well, when he said that thing to the president at one point, "you'll get your turn." that was an incredibly kind of condescending, you know, i'm the ceo kind of patronizing way of treating the president. as you said, for some independent voters, that's true. the o
jim lehrer, fine. you can get out a knife and have a knife fight with jim lehrer. but you don't do that with a female moderator. it's problematic. secondly, you don't run over the president of the united states. whether that president's a republican or whether that president is a democrat. there are independent voters who believe that a president should be treated with deference because he is the commander in chief. >> and you do it carefully. >> more in sadness than in anger....
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i'm surprised jim lehrer didn't ask about it. i was surprised romney didn't affirmatively try to defuse it himself. i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain debates and the george w. bush debates and the bob dole debates and the george h.w. debates. again, a great man, a horrific debater. you know, the famous jon lovitz line, "i can't believe i'm losing to this guy." playing michael dukakis. you really do have to go back to ronald reagan to find a republican that was in command during a presidential debate. and i predict that's going to excite the republican base in a way it hasn't been ex
i'm surprised jim lehrer didn't ask about it. i was surprised romney didn't affirmatively try to defuse it himself. i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable...
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an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. >>> this is part every a new ad for american crossroads, the super pac, they are launching this tv ad in eight states, the biggest ad in the cycle. let's brin
an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] jill and her...
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and i think jim lehrer will keep it even keel as far as the performance itself. >> you prepared president bush. how tough is it to be sitting with the president of the united states and telling him, no, sir, you're doing this wrong. let's try it again. is it harder to prepare a president? >> well, a person that needs a team that's capable of doing that. and a good opponent which i think he has here. john kerry as his debate, you know, preparation opponent here, that can school him in these things. that i think is important and kerry's quite good. we saw that in 2004. he did quite well in all three of those debates but it should be sobering to romney that kerry did well in those debates but it was not decisive in the election. >> a challenger wins just by being on the stage with an incumbent president, but you have to be ronald reagan and do a there you go again and make something of that in the ensuing campaign and also outside events, obviously, iran, the hostage situation was fatally damaging to jimmy carter. but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections
and i think jim lehrer will keep it even keel as far as the performance itself. >> you prepared president bush. how tough is it to be sitting with the president of the united states and telling him, no, sir, you're doing this wrong. let's try it again. is it harder to prepare a president? >> well, a person that needs a team that's capable of doing that. and a good opponent which i think he has here. john kerry as his debate, you know, preparation opponent here, that can school him...